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Message 12898 (29. Jun. 2010 13:30) (Tree)

Vertic_Al
Smaller ramps harder?
: Because of my inline background, I'd call those "t-stalls" mizous. Why invent new names if we'd get mocked by inliners for putting old wine in new bags?

We get mocked anyway for riding 'old style' skates. I myself prefer T-Stall, but each to their own.

: Anyway, yeah, Allan, smaller ramps are harder IMO. Smaller ramps mean less time to arrange your feet, shift your weight and adding style to riding. Also, just as blunt knives are more dangerous than sharp ones, smaller ramps give you less time to bail out on a fall. I hate stalling, grinding and airing on small ramps(except when it's supposed to be used as a jumpramp). I really hate the authorities for spending millions on skateparks like the Malieveld, and not putting down a vert anywhere.

Yea, i hate doing FS stalls on small ramps for the simple reason that if i bail forward there's nothing to slide down. Doesn't help that most of the small parks round here have metal ramps and kinda crappy tarmac, but then again it's better than nothing.

: Rant, rant, rant, rant. First I should finish the right skate. Then I'll smack the authorities head with it. "Do something right for once!"

You can do it!


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Vertic_Al: Smaller ramps harder? (29. Jun. 2010 01:27)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RULnkNFkaLo

So i got a little footage of messing around on the funbox at Dundonald Castle Skatepark. I dunno if it's because I'm used to having a bit of a drop to reposition my feet for landing, but smaller ramps seem harder to do stuff on now.

Also planning to work on kneesliding right over the top of the funbox as a transition, though I need better kneepads first xD
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claudine: Smaller ramps harder? (29. Jun. 2010 05:44)
 Awesome! This weekend I'm doing back stalls and the t-stall or whatever its called myself!
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cephalopoid: Smaller ramps harder? (29. Jun. 2010 10:45)
 Because of my inline background, I'd call those "t-stalls" mizous. Why invent new names if we'd get mocked by inliners for putting old wine in new bags?
Unless we've coined terms before them, of course, which wouldn't sound unlikely as we've been around since the eighties and aggro inline only came around in the nineties.

History is much more interesting when you skip the "Alexander the Great" bullcrap and just look at everything from 1900 on, only involving earlier events when they bear relevance.

Anyway, yeah, Allan, smaller ramps are harder IMO. Smaller ramps mean less time to arrange your feet, shift your weight and adding style to riding. Also, just as blunt knives are more dangerous than sharp ones, smaller ramps give you less time to bail out on a fall. I hate stalling, grinding and airing on small ramps(except when it's supposed to be used as a jumpramp). I really hate the authorities for spending millions on skateparks like the Malieveld, and not putting down a vert anywhere.

Maybe I should just take the public transports and go to Ypenburg, Leiden or Rotterdam more often...

Rant, rant, rant, rant. First I should finish the right skate. Then I'll smack the authorities head with it. "Do something right for once!"
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Vertic_Al: Smaller ramps harder? (29. Jun. 2010 13:30)
 : Because of my inline background, I'd call those "t-stalls" mizous. Why invent new names if we'd get mocked by inliners for putting old wine in new bags?

We get mocked anyway for riding 'old style' skates. I myself prefer T-Stall, but each to their own.

: Anyway, yeah, Allan, smaller ramps are harder IMO. Smaller ramps mean less time to arrange your feet, shift your weight and adding style to riding. Also, just as blunt knives are more dangerous than sharp ones, smaller ramps give you less time to bail out on a fall. I hate stalling, grinding and airing on small ramps(except when it's supposed to be used as a jumpramp). I really hate the authorities for spending millions on skateparks like the Malieveld, and not putting down a vert anywhere.

Yea, i hate doing FS stalls on small ramps for the simple reason that if i bail forward there's nothing to slide down. Doesn't help that most of the small parks round here have metal ramps and kinda crappy tarmac, but then again it's better than nothing.

: Rant, rant, rant, rant. First I should finish the right skate. Then I'll smack the authorities head with it. "Do something right for once!"

You can do it!


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biffsk8er: Smaller ramps harder? (29. Jun. 2010 19:27)
 Hear,hear!! MORE VERT!!!
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biffsk8er: Smaller ramps harder? (29. Jun. 2010 19:42)
 Go get 'em Claudine!!
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claudine: Smaller ramps harder? (30. Jun. 2010 04:41)
 I'm not an inliner, just a roller skater. I'm not so concerned with fitting in with the lingo, style or conforming. I enjoy roller skating that there seems to be freedom to make up our own names/tricks and be more creative.
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biffsk8er: Smaller ramps harder? (30. Jun. 2010 06:32)
 : I\'m not an inliner, just a roller skater.
: I\'m not so concerned with fitting in with
: the lingo, style or conforming. I enjoy
: roller skating that there seems to be
: freedom to make up our own names/tricks
: and be more creative.

Claudine, I did invent the \'Texas Tumbleweed\'. And oddly enough, I went to the skate park in Round Rock last night, and a kid specifically asked me to do it!! He had seen me do it before and he thought it was cool. :)

Does anyone else here have a trick name that they invented? I have an idea for Bernhards\' home page. We should do short videos with only one trick; the way that Paul (rollerball) has been doing. Then, we create a tricktionary; each trick showing a video guide to go with it.

Bernhard, would this be possible?
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Bernhard: Smaller ramps harder? (30. Jun. 2010 09:48)
 : Claudine, I did invent the 'Texas Tumbleweed'.

I like that trick name!
: Does anyone else here have a trick name that they invented?

One trick I did is called "Calippo Plant' by those in the know. Probably I didn't invent the trick which just is a front-side hand-plant.

I have an idea for Bernhard's home page. We should do short videos with only one trick; the way that Paul (rollerball) has been doing. Then, we create a tricktionary; each trick showing a video guide to go with it.
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: Bernhard, would this be possible?

Sure. I could fire up something like the 'Suggest a resourve' form on the resources page for such a tricktionary on short notice. The only caveat is that embedding videos depends on external sites like YouTube and the videos stop working when the external service ceases to exist. This has happened time and again and is one of the reason's why I favor submitting images to the forum instead of linking them in from external sites. There are quite some such image links which do not work any more.

Captcha is 'striving Mr'. Isn't there a 'B' missing?
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biffsk8er: Smaller ramps harder? (30. Jun. 2010 22:18)
 : The only caveat is that embedding videos depends on
: external sites like YouTube and the videos stop
: working when the external service ceases to exist.
: This has happened time and again and is one of the
: reason's why I favor submitting images to the forum
: instead of linking them in from external sites.
: There are quite some such image links which do not
: work any more.

► I wouldn't expect youtube to go away any time soon. Though, videos on particular accounts might cease to exist if the user quits or gets banned (etc..), but couldn't the video link be replaced by the Admin.....namely you?

Besides, the problem that I have with pics is that it doesn't really show you the whole trick when it comes to something like a McTwist, or a fakie 360 to backside grind to 180 out. On the other hand, a video like Pauls tutorial multi angle clips of individual tricks is a great way to share tricks! We shouldn't lose these videos as these threads get buried in the archives. They should be saved to their own page.

Yeah, links, websites, and even videos do sometimes disappear on the internet,....but not utilizing these tools while they exist seems a waste.

My 2¢ worth.
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Bernhard: Smaller ramps harder? (1. Jul. 2010 14:14)
 : ► I wouldn't expect youtube to go away any time soon.

One just doesn't know. I don't expect this neither, now that they belong to Google. But I'm watching what's going on in the net since 20 years now and have seen a lot of changes.

: Though, videos on particular accounts might cease to exist if the user quits or gets banned (etc..), but couldn't the video link be replaced by the Admin.....namely you?

That's true and I agree that such a tricktionary is a good idea and I hope to start it soon.

: Besides, the problem that I have with pics is that it doesn't really show you the whole trick when it comes to something like a McTwist, or a fakie 360 to backside grind to 180 out.

It would be really great if someone could pull the key frames from the video and create an animated GIF. This could be stored inside the tricktionary and still convey the essentials.

: On the other hand, a video like Pauls tutorial multi angle clips of individual tricks is a great way to share tricks! We shouldn't lose these videos as these threads get buried in the archives. They should be saved to their own page.

Paul's vids are pure cold wrt documenting his tricks and sharing them in a way that can be studied.

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cephalopoid: Smaller ramps harder? (2. Jul. 2010 00:20)
 : : On the other hand, a video like Pauls tutorial multi angle clips of individual tricks is a great way to share tricks! We shouldn\'t lose these videos as these threads get buried in the archives. They should be saved to their own page.
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: Paul\'s vids are pure cold wrt documenting his tricks and sharing them in a way that can be studied.
:

Could anyone point me a link to those? I just wonder what everyone keeps talking about.
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Bernhard: Smaller ramps harder? (2. Jul. 2010 09:43)
 : : Paul's vids are pure cold wrt documenting his tricks and sharing them in a way that can be studied.
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: Could anyone point me a link to those? I just wonder what everyone keeps talking about.

You can find them here: http://adinfinitum.de/php/browsevids.php?theme=Vert-Skating&from=Rollerball and here: http://adinfinitum.de/php/browsevids.php?theme=Vert-Skating&from=rollerball. He uses the aliases Rollerball and rollerball.

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