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Message 4020 (10. Nov. 2007 22:33) (Tree)

claudine
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stength training?
I went skating today expecting to feel really strong. For the last month I've gone to the gym 3 times a week religiously hoping to get more power, strength and to prevent injury/rehab my knee. After today I feel like none of this has transfered!

The trainer has me more on a bodybuilding program. One where I am constantly sore and worrying about protein intake to recover. He has me doing a lot of pushing exercises and all on machines. For one, when I jump, I find it more pulling. Some of it was I had on a knee brace so it was hard to bend my knees but I couldnt really pull my knees up to jump! I expected this to be easy from all the weights. Then my shins, lower back and hips were all sore. I felt WEAKER.

Am I just building unnecessary muscles and not using the muscles I use skating? Even my legs, my hamstrings are about as strong as my quads, so skating is actually good for my muscle balance since that is mostly quads. I think plyos would help once I heal. But what exercises help skating or just should I skate and do some calistenics? Ride the stationary bike? I'm more interested in skating and being injury free and really dont care if I have tiny bicepts or what not. I'm old and dont care. I just want to be healthy and skate like a mad woman!!
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claudine: stength training? (10. Nov. 2007 22:33)
 I went skating today expecting to feel really strong. For the last month I've gone to the gym 3 times a week religiously hoping to get more power, strength and to prevent injury/rehab my knee. After today I feel like none of this has transfered!

The trainer has me more on a bodybuilding program. One where I am constantly sore and worrying about protein intake to recover. He has me doing a lot of pushing exercises and all on machines. For one, when I jump, I find it more pulling. Some of it was I had on a knee brace so it was hard to bend my knees but I couldnt really pull my knees up to jump! I expected this to be easy from all the weights. Then my shins, lower back and hips were all sore. I felt WEAKER.

Am I just building unnecessary muscles and not using the muscles I use skating? Even my legs, my hamstrings are about as strong as my quads, so skating is actually good for my muscle balance since that is mostly quads. I think plyos would help once I heal. But what exercises help skating or just should I skate and do some calistenics? Ride the stationary bike? I'm more interested in skating and being injury free and really dont care if I have tiny bicepts or what not. I'm old and dont care. I just want to be healthy and skate like a mad woman!!
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Robert: stength training? (11. Nov. 2007 22:02)
 I wish I had the answer and hope someone else will. I find the best exercise to do for skating is skating. I found that when I was skating a lot, my endurance started to get better and I was doing longer and more frequent runs. I did have a sore thigh all of the time. I am hoping the Chiropractor can help that issue as well.

: I went skating today expecting to feel really strong. For the last month I've gone to the gym 3 times a week religiously hoping to get more power, strength and to prevent injury/rehab my knee. After today I feel like none of this has transfered!
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: The trainer has me more on a bodybuilding program. One where I am constantly sore and worrying about protein intake to recover. He has me doing a lot of pushing exercises and all on machines. For one, when I jump, I find it more pulling. Some of it was I had on a knee brace so it was hard to bend my knees but I couldnt really pull my knees up to jump! I expected this to be easy from all the weights. Then my shins, lower back and hips were all sore. I felt WEAKER.
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: Am I just building unnecessary muscles and not using the muscles I use skating? Even my legs, my hamstrings are about as strong as my quads, so skating is actually good for my muscle balance since that is mostly quads. I think plyos would help once I heal. But what exercises help skating or just should I skate and do some calistenics? Ride the stationary bike? I'm more interested in skating and being injury free and really dont care if I have tiny bicepts or what not. I'm old and dont care. I just want to be healthy and skate like a mad woman!!
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claudine: stength training? (11. Nov. 2007 22:52)
 I talked to a bunch of people and reasoned it through. Skating is a lot of balance which requires stabilizing muscles, something you dont used with fixed weights. So freeweights, bodyweights, tubing all better. Then I thought I need to do motions more like skating.

So this is stuff I came up with. Put skates on and do exercises where I pull my knees to my chest, flat on the ground, on the table upright, bicycling with them on. I have a barbell/dumbells so I can do lunges, deadlifts and squats too. Take tubing for leg/hip/ankle exercises. I will need to be creative here. I want BUTT exercises though! I want a big ass lol. But otherwise I dont care really on appearances, just performance.

Then jumps, with tubing, on my mini trampoline, with shoes. Jump rope with skates on. One legged jumps or anything where I pull my knees up. Hold inverts, and core exercises. But yeah, mostly skate! I think for injury, holding balance exericses and bodyweight exercises will be better to help stabilize the joints.

The trainer is used to training guys for looks/mass. I'm so freakin cut now as it is. All that lifting makes me more ripped and I dont need that cause soon I will look like a boy. My arm muscles are more cut then they guys lol. PLus it wastes my time.

: I wish I had the answer and hope someone else will. I find the best exercise to do for skating is skating. I found that when I was skating a lot, my endurance started to get better and I was doing longer and more frequent runs. I did have a sore thigh all of the time. I am hoping the Chiropractor can help that issue as well.
:
: : I went skating today expecting to feel really strong. For the last month I've gone to the gym 3 times a week religiously hoping to get more power, strength and to prevent injury/rehab my knee. After today I feel like none of this has transfered!
: :
: : The trainer has me more on a bodybuilding program. One where I am constantly sore and worrying about protein intake to recover. He has me doing a lot of pushing exercises and all on machines. For one, when I jump, I find it more pulling. Some of it was I had on a knee brace so it was hard to bend my knees but I couldnt really pull my knees up to jump! I expected this to be easy from all the weights. Then my shins, lower back and hips were all sore. I felt WEAKER.
: :
: : Am I just building unnecessary muscles and not using the muscles I use skating? Even my legs, my hamstrings are about as strong as my quads, so skating is actually good for my muscle balance since that is mostly quads. I think plyos would help once I heal. But what exercises help skating or just should I skate and do some calistenics? Ride the stationary bike? I'm more interested in skating and being injury free and really dont care if I have tiny bicepts or what not. I'm old and dont care. I just want to be healthy and skate like a mad woman!!
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claudine: update.... (14. Nov. 2007 16:54)
 I spoke with the trainer and came up with exercises myself. He seemed to put me on a safe general program and was happy to help me with a new program. Now I am using more free weights and a lot more lower body execises so now I spend almost 2 hrs in the gym lol. On an adduction exercise, one muscle was very weak and sore. That may be holding me back now! But all the exercises, even if not used in skating, should help stabilize my joints and prevent injuries. so sticking with it. When I'm strong enough and fully healed, I will do lots of plyos and that will help me tons! I think I need patience and more time..... It sure beats sitting on my butt on non skating days.

: I wish I had the answer and hope someone else will. I find the best exercise to do for skating is skating. I found that when I was skating a lot, my endurance started to get better and I was doing longer and more frequent runs. I did have a sore thigh all of the time. I am hoping the Chiropractor can help that issue as well.
:
: : I went skating today expecting to feel really strong. For the last month I've gone to the gym 3 times a week religiously hoping to get more power, strength and to prevent injury/rehab my knee. After today I feel like none of this has transfered!
: :
: : The trainer has me more on a bodybuilding program. One where I am constantly sore and worrying about protein intake to recover. He has me doing a lot of pushing exercises and all on machines. For one, when I jump, I find it more pulling. Some of it was I had on a knee brace so it was hard to bend my knees but I couldnt really pull my knees up to jump! I expected this to be easy from all the weights. Then my shins, lower back and hips were all sore. I felt WEAKER.
: :
: : Am I just building unnecessary muscles and not using the muscles I use skating? Even my legs, my hamstrings are about as strong as my quads, so skating is actually good for my muscle balance since that is mostly quads. I think plyos would help once I heal. But what exercises help skating or just should I skate and do some calistenics? Ride the stationary bike? I'm more interested in skating and being injury free and really dont care if I have tiny bicepts or what not. I'm old and dont care. I just want to be healthy and skate like a mad woman!!
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joe90: update.... (15. Nov. 2007 00:08)
 I recon you should just go skating every time you would have gone to the gym.The muscles that you need for skating are the ones that will be getting the workout when you skate.
cheers joe

: I spoke with the trainer and came up with exercises myself. He seemed to put me on a safe general program and was happy to help me with a new program. Now I am using more free weights and a lot more lower body execises so now I spend almost 2 hrs in the gym lol. On an adduction exercise, one muscle was very weak and sore. That may be holding me back now! But all the exercises, even if not used in skating, should help stabilize my joints and prevent injuries. so sticking with it. When I'm strong enough and fully healed, I will do lots of plyos and that will help me tons! I think I need patience and more time..... It sure beats sitting on my butt on non skating days.
:
: : I wish I had the answer and hope someone else will. I find the best exercise to do for skating is skating. I found that when I was skating a lot, my endurance started to get better and I was doing longer and more frequent runs. I did have a sore thigh all of the time. I am hoping the Chiropractor can help that issue as well.
: :
: : : I went skating today expecting to feel really strong. For the last month I've gone to the gym 3 times a week religiously hoping to get more power, strength and to prevent injury/rehab my knee. After today I feel like none of this has transfered!
: : :
: : : The trainer has me more on a bodybuilding program. One where I am constantly sore and worrying about protein intake to recover. He has me doing a lot of pushing exercises and all on machines. For one, when I jump, I find it more pulling. Some of it was I had on a knee brace so it was hard to bend my knees but I couldnt really pull my knees up to jump! I expected this to be easy from all the weights. Then my shins, lower back and hips were all sore. I felt WEAKER.
: : :
: : : Am I just building unnecessary muscles and not using the muscles I use skating? Even my legs, my hamstrings are about as strong as my quads, so skating is actually good for my muscle balance since that is mostly quads. I think plyos would help once I heal. But what exercises help skating or just should I skate and do some calistenics? Ride the stationary bike? I'm more interested in skating and being injury free and really dont care if I have tiny bicepts or what not. I'm old and dont care. I just want to be healthy and skate like a mad woman!!
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claudine: update.... (15. Nov. 2007 00:40)
 Right now it gets dark early, cold and my knee isnt 100%. So even if I wanted, its not good to skate daily yet cause after 2 days skating hard, my knee was a touch sore. I was told this was good for injury prevention, strength and rehab. Plus I'm skinny and think my muscles need it. I want to be able to be strong to pull off handplants soon and jump HIGH. I think its not good to be too skinny with skating? When my knee is strong, I might quit and just do some stuff at home that I think I need. I donno...... I"d rather skate but this is better then "resting" and having my muscles waste away.


: I recon you should just go skating every time you would have gone to the gym.The muscles that you need for skating are the ones that will be getting the workout when you skate.
: cheers joe
:
: : I spoke with the trainer and came up with exercises myself. He seemed to put me on a safe general program and was happy to help me with a new program. Now I am using more free weights and a lot more lower body execises so now I spend almost 2 hrs in the gym lol. On an adduction exercise, one muscle was very weak and sore. That may be holding me back now! But all the exercises, even if not used in skating, should help stabilize my joints and prevent injuries. so sticking with it. When I'm strong enough and fully healed, I will do lots of plyos and that will help me tons! I think I need patience and more time..... It sure beats sitting on my butt on non skating days.
: :
: : : I wish I had the answer and hope someone else will. I find the best exercise to do for skating is skating. I found that when I was skating a lot, my endurance started to get better and I was doing longer and more frequent runs. I did have a sore thigh all of the time. I am hoping the Chiropractor can help that issue as well.
: : :
: : : : I went skating today expecting to feel really strong. For the last month I've gone to the gym 3 times a week religiously hoping to get more power, strength and to prevent injury/rehab my knee. After today I feel like none of this has transfered!
: : : :
: : : : The trainer has me more on a bodybuilding program. One where I am constantly sore and worrying about protein intake to recover. He has me doing a lot of pushing exercises and all on machines. For one, when I jump, I find it more pulling. Some of it was I had on a knee brace so it was hard to bend my knees but I couldnt really pull my knees up to jump! I expected this to be easy from all the weights. Then my shins, lower back and hips were all sore. I felt WEAKER.
: : : :
: : : : Am I just building unnecessary muscles and not using the muscles I use skating? Even my legs, my hamstrings are about as strong as my quads, so skating is actually good for my muscle balance since that is mostly quads. I think plyos would help once I heal. But what exercises help skating or just should I skate and do some calistenics? Ride the stationary bike? I'm more interested in skating and being injury free and really dont care if I have tiny bicepts or what not. I'm old and dont care. I just want to be healthy and skate like a mad woman!!
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