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Message 5201 (18. Mar. 2008 12:50) (Tree)

claudine
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No grind bars, no skate
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: : : : : this could work for your setup. make a box, attach, add slider shape of choice.
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: : : : : daniel now rides the same setup as you, with lisa's grindbars modified. he bent angles to lower them closer to the plate, then added plastic screwed into the grindbar for slide.
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: : : : Irene's idea sounds easiest!! I think you should just talk to Lisa. See if she has a bar one size bigger, get them to heat it up to bend it down to a V since you said you had people who work with metal? Just drill holes in the grindbar and attach sliders to it. Wont mess up your plates, light, simple. I'm not sure what her new bars will look like. I wish I had time to do this. Tell me how to win the lottery, I will quit my job and build you some incredible skates, for FREE! Have to win the lottery first lol. Work + school = 60 hrs/week already, add in skate, my own projects. This old woman needs to sleep!!
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: : : gday, 60hrs plus 10hrs yapping on here, no wonder your tired girl.
: : : ive never used grind bars, i prefer wider trucks so i can really grind whilst carving, i love the noise and feel underfoot. ive plastic acs plates so i can still slide in a fashion. ever since i was a little kid ive loved the speed, the wind in the hair, you know. thats what i like about sk8ting.
: : : had a quiet roll yesterday that ended up quite a roll.
: : : thats it for now, cheers h.
: : :
: : Lemme tell you, night classes SUCK! Soon it will be over. But I'm going to build another vert setup here soon with those too big plates, no sliders tho. I will drill new holes. Make a nice set up for street/lansdowne and in case my skates need a rest/repair. I like the wide trucks now only. I need to find someone to take out the rivets first so it will be a bit. I'm also going to have a rad longboard here soon and build slider gloves for me and my buddy! I will post pics. Then skatepark opens now in 4 days!! Wow, I'm exhausted lol. Glad to hear you rolled! :-D
: Hey Claudine if you work out how thick the shaft part of the rivet is, you get a dril bit that size and dril thru thr centre of the rivet and it should prety much fall out,
: should be a peice of piss for a master skate builder such as yer good self.
:
: cheers joe

So its that easy, drill center the diameter of the shaft? I might just do it myself. I'll call the cobbler, but he wouldnt even put an extra eyelet in my skates so I dont think he will take rivets out. I'm so impatient and stubborn, and cheap so I usually just do stuff myself lol.
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Robert: No grind bars, no skate (15. Mar. 2008 03:54)
 Ok, so I am starting to learn a little bit about equiptment. I took off my grind bars last night and just putting my trucks back on took me a littel bit of time. Today, I got to the park and realized when trying to tighten my trucks that I needed a spacer on top of the bushings. I drove over to a skate shop and spent $6 bucks and thought I would be ready to go. Once I got my trucks back on, which took very little time because I have it down now, I thought I was all set. My skates felt really weird and nothing like two days ago. I thought it might have been because I put my front trucks on the rear or something. I figured I would just skate and see what happened. I put my foot over the coping to drop in and realized something that I never thought about. My new set up has double spring instead of single spring trucks. This means that the distance between my plate and trucks is very far. I could not even latch on. On my old single spring skates my plate would touch coping and my trucks would touch the coping. I realized that I can not skate with out my grind bar so I did a little skateboarding in the bowl and then went home and put my grind bars back on. I am stuck with my grind bars till I find a better solution. I guess I will just have to suck it up and start doing footplants and plate stahls with no clasping at all. I had moreto work better grab on the coping with my oldschool inline skates. I did not have the new style skates, but still had some grab in between the wheels.
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claudine: No grind bars, no skate (15. Mar. 2008 13:36)
 : Ok, so I am starting to learn a little bit about equiptment. I took off my grind bars last night and just putting my trucks back on took me a littel bit of time. Today, I got to the park and realized when trying to tighten my trucks that I needed a spacer on top of the bushings. I drove over to a skate shop and spent $6 bucks and thought I would be ready to go. Once I got my trucks back on, which took very little time because I have it down now, I thought I was all set. My skates felt really weird and nothing like two days ago. I thought it might have been because I put my front trucks on the rear or something. I figured I would just skate and see what happened. I put my foot over the coping to drop in and realized something that I never thought about. My new set up has double spring instead of single spring trucks. This means that the distance between my plate and trucks is very far. I could not even latch on. On my old single spring skates my plate would touch coping and my trucks would touch the coping. I realized that I can not skate with out my grind bar so I did a little skateboarding in the bowl and then went home and put my grind bars back on. I am stuck with my grind bars till I find a better solution. I guess I will just have to suck it up and start doing footplants and plate stahls with no clasping at all. I had moreto work better grab on the coping with my oldschool inline skates. I did not have the new style skates, but still had some grab in between the wheels.

I donno, maybe I have a concussion cause I'm confused on your post lol. But here is what Gamblin did for his sliders that you should view:

http://www.adinfinitum.de/Rollerskate/howto/gambin_sliders/

Mine only entail the fact that there is a V on top. I made mine more a curved one but next time it will be just a V I think. What I did is measure the distance between the axels for length of sliders, cut rectangular blocks. Cut outside C cuts. I marked on there with a sharpie, not a good idea since it rubs off but did OK for me still. Cut the top to stop at the center of your axels. Cut the top V cut. Cut the center, bottom out. Trim insides, etc. to fit so the sliders dont touch your kingpin/trucks when you carve. Take plate and with sliders on drill a tiny hole in center then I kinda carved it out. Attach with bolts, flathead, plate to sliders. Since you are not using your mounting bolts, attach just the plate to sliders.

Or ask Irene. She put a box on hers then you can just attach rails to it! More simple. Cutting plastic wtih a jigsaw takes me 2 weekends to do. Its time consuming. If you can get someone with machinery to do it, thats awesome. All ways would require holes drilled into your plate. My methods are not as technical as they are visual. I cut to fit. I sew clothes that way too lol, no pattern. /.-P Go figure, at work I am told I am more technical then creative???? Confused again lol.
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claudine: corrections lol (15. Mar. 2008 14:10)
 Sorry, I just got up. Here are my steps:

Cut length of sliders the length of the center of one kingpin to the other. The height is the distance of the plate to the center of the axel.

Cut top V cut. I would go 1/2" down for you. Mark center, 1/2" down, make a point, draw a line to each edge, cut.

Find how far the bottom can go to each side, make a mark, make a mark 3/4" from top, another one was 3/8" thickness for the bolt and extend inwards past the bolt. Cut out C shape but it will go up if you do the V on yours on top.

Place on plate, trim tops to make them triangular so they dont rub the trucks. WHen you can place them on your plates flush, trim outsides of tops of sliders to cut off the edge to make them more rounded. When all other cuts are dont, cut out center/bottom. I would give 3/4" on top and 1/2" or so on sides. Trim anything else as needed.

Place on plate, drill with a small drill holes. There isnt much room so I "ate" away to get the hole exact.

No, this is not an exact plan. But its how I work. I cut to fit, measure, adjust. Just think to go outside inwards. Otherwise you could end up with skinny sides.


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ireNe: No grind bars, no skate (16. Mar. 2008 14:08)
 : Ok, so I am starting to learn a little bit about equiptment. I took off my grind bars last night and just putting my trucks back on took me a littel bit of time. Today, I got to the park and realized when trying to tighten my trucks that I needed a spacer on top of the bushings. I drove over to a skate shop and spent $6 bucks and thought I would be ready to go. Once I got my trucks back on, which took very little time because I have it down now, I thought I was all set. My skates felt really weird and nothing like two days ago. I thought it might have been because I put my front trucks on the rear or something. I figured I would just skate and see what happened. I put my foot over the coping to drop in and realized something that I never thought about. My new set up has double spring instead of single spring trucks. This means that the distance between my plate and trucks is very far. I could not even lat
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ireNe: No grind bars, no skate (16. Mar. 2008 14:22)
 http://www.adinfinitum.de/Rollerskate/php/showimage.php?img=../people/daniel_knopf/rollerskates2.jpg&bgcolor=%23b88b62&text=Daniel+Knopf%27s+skate%3Cbr%3E+side+view

this could work for your setup. make a box, attach, add slider shape of choice.

daniel now rides the same setup as you, with lisa's grindbars modified. he bent angles to lower them closer to the plate, then added plastic screwed into the grindbar for slide.
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claudine: No grind bars, no skate (16. Mar. 2008 20:04)
 : http://www.adinfinitum.de/Rollerskate/php/showimage.php?img=../people/daniel_knopf/rollerskates2.jpg&bgcolor=%23b88b62&text=Daniel+Knopf%27s+skate%3Cbr%3E+side+view
:
: this could work for your setup. make a box, attach, add slider shape of choice.
:
: daniel now rides the same setup as you, with lisa's grindbars modified. he bent angles to lower them closer to the plate, then added plastic screwed into the grindbar for slide.

Irene's idea sounds easiest!! I think you should just talk to Lisa. See if she has a bar one size bigger, get them to heat it up to bend it down to a V since you said you had people who work with metal? Just drill holes in the grindbar and attach sliders to it. Wont mess up your plates, light, simple. I'm not sure what her new bars will look like. I wish I had time to do this. Tell me how to win the lottery, I will quit my job and build you some incredible skates, for FREE! Have to win the lottery first lol. Work + school = 60 hrs/week already, add in skate, my own projects. This old woman needs to sleep!!
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h ludi.: No grind bars, no skate (17. Mar. 2008 13:57)
 : : http://www.adinfinitum.de/Rollerskate/php/showimage.php?img=../people/daniel_knopf/rollerskates2.jpg&bgcolor=%23b88b62&text=Daniel+Knopf%27s+skate%3Cbr%3E+side+view
: :
: : this could work for your setup. make a box, attach, add slider shape of choice.
: :
: : daniel now rides the same setup as you, with lisa's grindbars modified. he bent angles to lower them closer to the plate, then added plastic screwed into the grindbar for slide.
:
: Irene's idea sounds easiest!! I think you should just talk to Lisa. See if she has a bar one size bigger, get them to heat it up to bend it down to a V since you said you had people who work with metal? Just drill holes in the grindbar and attach sliders to it. Wont mess up your plates, light, simple. I'm not sure what her new bars will look like. I wish I had time to do this. Tell me how to win the lottery, I will quit my job and build you some incredible skates, for FREE! Have to win the lottery first lol. Work + school = 60 hrs/week already, add in skate, my own projects. This old woman needs to sleep!!

gday, 60hrs plus 10hrs yapping on here, no wonder your tired girl.
ive never used grind bars, i prefer wider trucks so i can really grind whilst carving, i love the noise and feel underfoot. ive plastic acs plates so i can still slide in a fashion. ever since i was a little kid ive loved the speed, the wind in the hair, you know. thats what i like about sk8ting.
had a quiet roll yesterday that ended up quite a roll.
thats it for now, cheers h.






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claudine: No grind bars, no skate (18. Mar. 2008 01:29)
 : : : http://www.adinfinitum.de/Rollerskate/php/showimage.php?img=../people/daniel_knopf/rollerskates2.jpg&bgcolor=%23b88b62&text=Daniel+Knopf%27s+skate%3Cbr%3E+side+view
: : :
: : : this could work for your setup. make a box, attach, add slider shape of choice.
: : :
: : : daniel now rides the same setup as you, with lisa's grindbars modified. he bent angles to lower them closer to the plate, then added plastic screwed into the grindbar for slide.
: :
: : Irene's idea sounds easiest!! I think you should just talk to Lisa. See if she has a bar one size bigger, get them to heat it up to bend it down to a V since you said you had people who work with metal? Just drill holes in the grindbar and attach sliders to it. Wont mess up your plates, light, simple. I'm not sure what her new bars will look like. I wish I had time to do this. Tell me how to win the lottery, I will quit my job and build you some incredible skates, for FREE! Have to win the lottery first lol. Work + school = 60 hrs/week already, add in skate, my own projects. This old woman needs to sleep!!
:
: gday, 60hrs plus 10hrs yapping on here, no wonder your tired girl.
: ive never used grind bars, i prefer wider trucks so i can really grind whilst carving, i love the noise and feel underfoot. ive plastic acs plates so i can still slide in a fashion. ever since i was a little kid ive loved the speed, the wind in the hair, you know. thats what i like about sk8ting.
: had a quiet roll yesterday that ended up quite a roll.
: thats it for now, cheers h.
:
Lemme tell you, night classes SUCK! Soon it will be over. But I'm going to build another vert setup here soon with those too big plates, no sliders tho. I will drill new holes. Make a nice set up for street/lansdowne and in case my skates need a rest/repair. I like the wide trucks now only. I need to find someone to take out the rivets first so it will be a bit. I'm also going to have a rad longboard here soon and build slider gloves for me and my buddy! I will post pics. Then skatepark opens now in 4 days!! Wow, I'm exhausted lol. Glad to hear you rolled! :-D
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joe90: No grind bars, no skate (18. Mar. 2008 07:27)
 : : : http://www.adinfinitum.de/Rollerskate/php/showimage.php?img=../people/daniel_knopf/rollerskates2.jpg&bgcolor=%23b88b62&text=Daniel+Knopf%27s+skate%3Cbr%3E+side+view
: : :
: : : this could work for your setup. make a box, attach, add slider shape of choice.
: : :
: : : daniel now rides the same setup as you, with lisa's grindbars modified. he bent angles to lower them closer to the plate, then added plastic screwed into the grindbar for slide.
: :
: : Irene's idea sounds easiest!! I think you should just talk to Lisa. See if she has a bar one size bigger, get them to heat it up to bend it down to a V since you said you had people who work with metal? Just drill holes in the grindbar and attach sliders to it. Wont mess up your plates, light, simple. I'm not sure what her new bars will look like. I wish I had time to do this. Tell me how to win the lottery, I will quit my job and build you some incredible skates, for FREE! Have to win the lottery first lol. Work + school = 60 hrs/week already, add in skate, my own projects. This old woman needs to sleep!!
:
: gday, 60hrs plus 10hrs yapping on here, no wonder your tired girl.
: ive never used grind bars, i prefer wider trucks so i can really grind whilst carving, i love the noise and feel underfoot. ive plastic acs plates so i can still slide in a fashion. ever since i was a little kid ive loved the speed, the wind in the hair, you know. thats what i like about sk8ting.
: had a quiet roll yesterday that ended up quite a roll.
: thats it for now, cheers h.
Hey Harry,,these days you probably have to lean ya head forward to get the wind in yer hair.

cheers joe

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joe90: No grind bars, no skate (18. Mar. 2008 07:33)
 : : : : http://www.adinfinitum.de/Rollerskate/php/showimage.php?img=../people/daniel_knopf/rollerskates2.jpg&bgcolor=%23b88b62&text=Daniel+Knopf%27s+skate%3Cbr%3E+side+view
: : : :
: : : : this could work for your setup. make a box, attach, add slider shape of choice.
: : : :
: : : : daniel now rides the same setup as you, with lisa's grindbars modified. he bent angles to lower them closer to the plate, then added plastic screwed into the grindbar for slide.
: : :
: : : Irene's idea sounds easiest!! I think you should just talk to Lisa. See if she has a bar one size bigger, get them to heat it up to bend it down to a V since you said you had people who work with metal? Just drill holes in the grindbar and attach sliders to it. Wont mess up your plates, light, simple. I'm not sure what her new bars will look like. I wish I had time to do this. Tell me how to win the lottery, I will quit my job and build you some incredible skates, for FREE! Have to win the lottery first lol. Work + school = 60 hrs/week already, add in skate, my own projects. This old woman needs to sleep!!
: :
: : gday, 60hrs plus 10hrs yapping on here, no wonder your tired girl.
: : ive never used grind bars, i prefer wider trucks so i can really grind whilst carving, i love the noise and feel underfoot. ive plastic acs plates so i can still slide in a fashion. ever since i was a little kid ive loved the speed, the wind in the hair, you know. thats what i like about sk8ting.
: : had a quiet roll yesterday that ended up quite a roll.
: : thats it for now, cheers h.
: :
: Lemme tell you, night classes SUCK! Soon it will be over. But I'm going to build another vert setup here soon with those too big plates, no sliders tho. I will drill new holes. Make a nice set up for street/lansdowne and in case my skates need a rest/repair. I like the wide trucks now only. I need to find someone to take out the rivets first so it will be a bit. I'm also going to have a rad longboard here soon and build slider gloves for me and my buddy! I will post pics. Then skatepark opens now in 4 days!! Wow, I'm exhausted lol. Glad to hear you rolled! :-D
Hey Claudine if you work out how thick the shaft part of the rivet is, you get a dril bit that size and dril thru thr centre of the rivet and it should prety much fall out,
should be a peice of piss for a master skate builder such as yer good self.

cheers joe
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claudine: No grind bars, no skate (18. Mar. 2008 12:50)
 : : : : : http://www.adinfinitum.de/Rollerskate/php/showimage.php?img=../people/daniel_knopf/rollerskates2.jpg&bgcolor=%23b88b62&text=Daniel+Knopf%27s+skate%3Cbr%3E+side+view
: : : : :
: : : : : this could work for your setup. make a box, attach, add slider shape of choice.
: : : : :
: : : : : daniel now rides the same setup as you, with lisa's grindbars modified. he bent angles to lower them closer to the plate, then added plastic screwed into the grindbar for slide.
: : : :
: : : : Irene's idea sounds easiest!! I think you should just talk to Lisa. See if she has a bar one size bigger, get them to heat it up to bend it down to a V since you said you had people who work with metal? Just drill holes in the grindbar and attach sliders to it. Wont mess up your plates, light, simple. I'm not sure what her new bars will look like. I wish I had time to do this. Tell me how to win the lottery, I will quit my job and build you some incredible skates, for FREE! Have to win the lottery first lol. Work + school = 60 hrs/week already, add in skate, my own projects. This old woman needs to sleep!!
: : :
: : : gday, 60hrs plus 10hrs yapping on here, no wonder your tired girl.
: : : ive never used grind bars, i prefer wider trucks so i can really grind whilst carving, i love the noise and feel underfoot. ive plastic acs plates so i can still slide in a fashion. ever since i was a little kid ive loved the speed, the wind in the hair, you know. thats what i like about sk8ting.
: : : had a quiet roll yesterday that ended up quite a roll.
: : : thats it for now, cheers h.
: : :
: : Lemme tell you, night classes SUCK! Soon it will be over. But I'm going to build another vert setup here soon with those too big plates, no sliders tho. I will drill new holes. Make a nice set up for street/lansdowne and in case my skates need a rest/repair. I like the wide trucks now only. I need to find someone to take out the rivets first so it will be a bit. I'm also going to have a rad longboard here soon and build slider gloves for me and my buddy! I will post pics. Then skatepark opens now in 4 days!! Wow, I'm exhausted lol. Glad to hear you rolled! :-D
: Hey Claudine if you work out how thick the shaft part of the rivet is, you get a dril bit that size and dril thru thr centre of the rivet and it should prety much fall out,
: should be a peice of piss for a master skate builder such as yer good self.
:
: cheers joe

So its that easy, drill center the diameter of the shaft? I might just do it myself. I'll call the cobbler, but he wouldnt even put an extra eyelet in my skates so I dont think he will take rivets out. I'm so impatient and stubborn, and cheap so I usually just do stuff myself lol.
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