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Message 6250 (21. Jul. 2008 16:17) (Tree)

Bernhard
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How to keep our sport alive?
: ill be the one that makes art tho so we will live a long long time.

I think that's of key importance. Vertical roller skating will only live if it has it's own (sub-)culture (which I think has a very big overlap with skateboarding culture). IMHO that also means not viewing it too much as a sport. In this way it would automatically be sorted in as trend sport and, since it isn't trendy, be dead immmediately. This is the reason why skateboarding and BMXing lives and thrives and why inline is in a miserable state. Inline tried to distinguish itself from skateboarding (they wore their knee pads under their pants, for example) but when the kids grew dominant there, they got under a growing influence of being assimilated into conventional sports (their parents didn't know better and the kids didn't understand the issue at all). Therefore, very little is left of vert inline. Inline street still is a bit alive, but they have gone very much underground. Which needn't be a bad thing. Skateboarding has been underground for a long time, too, and it seems only to have helped shaping skateboarding culture.
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Robert: How to keep our sport alive? (20. Jul. 2008 20:22)
 Hi all,

I am curious if any of you are seeing young vertical rollerskaters? It seems the scene in Europe is still going well, but here in Cali I don't ever see any young kids on skates. Duke Rennie really nailed it when he said we are a dying breed. I know us older folks keep skating, but when we are done will our sport be dead? I am just curious to hear what you are seeing out there. After spending a little time as a vertical inline skater, I now really appreciate how special rollerskating is. Our sport has so much soul and our roots are tied so closely to skateboarding and in my opinion vertical rollerskaters are a pretty amazing group of people. Your thoughts?
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claudine: i tried... (21. Jul. 2008 02:21)
 but i was not accepted by quad rink s8rs nor inliners. i mentioned how my trucks carve well and are very stable for bowls and an inliner went off on me. plus when i used to go to the street park across the street, a inliner would give me crap like when are u getting aggressive sk8s/realsk8s? so i dont talk to inliners much anymore unless they r nice to me 1st. they seem to feel threatened. the rink s8rs put me down since the only s8 has a rolline on it w/ a very short wheelbase and the belief is that quads arent for street. i got tired of arguing since that isnt me. my setup is a joke to them so now i keep quiet. but i fit in well w/ the boarders! i didnt go to the competition this weekend but they all asked 4 me. i hope to get better and show what quads can do at a competition since they want me to sk8 but that wont be this year now. most the people at the bowls are amazed and like to watch me wh/ is why i was showing off lol.

some derby girls do roll inside a bowl and in texas some actually carve it. but my experience is that they just mess w/ it, i guess to appear cool. derby is more a team sport & fitting in a group, vert is being ur own w/ no marketing/uniforms wh/ i dont think would appeal to them, i hope to b wrong but they dont take it seriosly and roll a bit as cross training only from what ive heard. i got excited in nov. to sk8 w/ another rollersk8r but she hasnt taken interest sense. i wish i could have given her my grind plate and teach her to drop in but flat ramps were it 4 her, i just sk8 (soon i hope) and hope 1 day another will want to try. for now fitting in somewhere is all i ask for! i wish there were more too and hope it doesnt die and i am healthy to show others how rad quads are!! i just want to sk8, even if its just me and a few of the coolest people in the world here. i just now want to see and sk8 w/ another vert sk8r since i have never yet seen another myself.

: Hi all,
:
: I am curious if any of you are seeing young vertical rollerskaters? It seems the scene in Europe is still going well, but here in Cali I don't ever see any young kids on skates. Duke Rennie really nailed it when he said we are a dying breed. I know us older folks keep skating, but when we are done will our sport be dead? I am just curious to hear what you are seeing out there. After spending a little time as a vertical inline skater, I now really appreciate how special rollerskating is. Our sport has so much soul and our roots are tied so closely to skateboarding and in my opinion vertical rollerskaters are a pretty amazing group of people. Your thoughts?
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buba: How to keep our sport alive? (21. Jul. 2008 04:44)
 Hi!

Here in Spain we were about 7 or 8 skaters of vertical and we all have more or less thirty years. We talked about that with us the vertical rollerskate die, but we are fortunate to skate with young boys line as they like to see us and are appreciating much more what is the skating. The only thing we can do is to the generations who come to teach us what it meant in our lives the rollerskate. I thank God for having known this sport.

(Excuse me for my English)
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h.ludi.: How to keep our sport alive? (21. Jul. 2008 11:38)
 : Hi all,
:
: I am curious if any of you are seeing young vertical rollerskaters? It seems the scene in Europe is still going well, but here in Cali I don't ever see any young kids on skates. Duke Rennie really nailed it when he said we are a dying breed. I know us older folks keep skating, but when we are done will our sport be dead? I am just curious to hear what you are seeing out there. After spending a little time as a vertical inline skater, I now really appreciate how special rollerskating is. Our sport has so much soul and our roots are tied so closely to skateboarding and in my opinion vertical rollerskaters are a pretty amazing group of people. Your thoughts?

correct answer.
we are back up to four in australia and i hope we can increase that.
so long as my arse points to the ground, were not dead or finished.
cheers, h.




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Bernhard: How to keep our sport alive? (21. Jul. 2008 11:51)
 : we are back up to four in australia and i hope we can increase that.

Greate news! I hope that this weekend at least one roller skater will participate in our local vert contest Hot LaWa.

: so long as my arse points to the ground, were not dead or finished.

That's the spirit! Australia's definitely on top! ;-)
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claudine: How to keep our sport alive? (21. Jul. 2008 13:27)
 : : Hi all,
: :
: : I am curious if any of you are seeing young vertical rollerskaters? It seems the scene in Europe is still going well, but here in Cali I don't ever see any young kids on skates. Duke Rennie really nailed it when he said we are a dying breed. I know us older folks keep skating, but when we are done will our sport be dead? I am just curious to hear what you are seeing out there. After spending a little time as a vertical inline skater, I now really appreciate how special rollerskating is. Our sport has so much soul and our roots are tied so closely to skateboarding and in my opinion vertical rollerskaters are a pretty amazing group of people. Your thoughts?
:
: correct answer.
: we are back up to four in australia and i hope we can increase that.
: so long as my arse points to the ground, were not dead or finished.
: cheers, h.
:
:
so those new sk8rs? there might b 2 i think duke is working with. but the person that i first was inspired by i think quit so that saddens me so now irene is my inspiration so ur not aloud to quit lol!! im special i think cause ima newbie still? ;-D ill be the one that makes art tho so we will live a long long time.
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Bernhard: How to keep our sport alive? (21. Jul. 2008 16:17)
 : ill be the one that makes art tho so we will live a long long time.

I think that's of key importance. Vertical roller skating will only live if it has it's own (sub-)culture (which I think has a very big overlap with skateboarding culture). IMHO that also means not viewing it too much as a sport. In this way it would automatically be sorted in as trend sport and, since it isn't trendy, be dead immmediately. This is the reason why skateboarding and BMXing lives and thrives and why inline is in a miserable state. Inline tried to distinguish itself from skateboarding (they wore their knee pads under their pants, for example) but when the kids grew dominant there, they got under a growing influence of being assimilated into conventional sports (their parents didn't know better and the kids didn't understand the issue at all). Therefore, very little is left of vert inline. Inline street still is a bit alive, but they have gone very much underground. Which needn't be a bad thing. Skateboarding has been underground for a long time, too, and it seems only to have helped shaping skateboarding culture.
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claudine: How to keep our sport alive? (21. Jul. 2008 19:56)
 : : ill be the one that makes art tho so we will live a long long time.
:
: I think that's of key importance. Vertical roller skating will only live if it has it's own (sub-)culture (which I think has a very big overlap with skateboarding culture). IMHO that also means not viewing it too much as a sport. In this way it would automatically be sorted in as trend sport and, since it isn't trendy, be dead immmediately. This is the reason why skateboarding and BMXing lives and thrives and why inline is in a miserable state. Inline tried to distinguish itself from skateboarding (they wore their knee pads under their pants, for example) but when the kids grew dominant there, they got under a growing influence of being assimilated into conventional sports (their parents didn't know better and the kids didn't understand the issue at all). Therefore, very little is left of vert inline. Inline street still is a bit alive, but they have gone very much underground. Which needn't be a bad thing. Skateboarding has been underground for a long time, too, and it seems only to have helped shaping skateboarding culture.

i never understood this anger/competitiveness wh/ exists in inline and not sk8boarding. motvation is in being big, not the activity it seems. i enjoy not being in an organized sport, so much more freedom to express myself in it then try to mold myself into another. after being competitive in running, much happier not competiting but just enjoy. if we keep the culture alive, it wont die!! it will live in me anyway until they bury me to shut me up lol.
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Robert: How to keep our sport alive? (22. Jul. 2008 02:41)
 When I skated in Spain and France, there was a great rollerskate scene. I was actually on inlines at the time, but met a lot of cool rollerskaters.

: : : ill be the one that makes art tho so we will live a long long time.
: :
: : I think that's of key importance. Vertical roller skating will only live if it has it's own (sub-)culture (which I think has a very big overlap with skateboarding culture). IMHO that also means not viewing it too much as a sport. In this way it would automatically be sorted in as trend sport and, since it isn't trendy, be dead immmediately. This is the reason why skateboarding and BMXing lives and thrives and why inline is in a miserable state. Inline tried to distinguish itself from skateboarding (they wore their knee pads under their pants, for example) but when the kids grew dominant there, they got under a growing influence of being assimilated into conventional sports (their parents didn't know better and the kids didn't understand the issue at all). Therefore, very little is left of vert inline. Inline street still is a bit alive, but they have gone very much underground. Which needn't be a bad thing. Skateboarding has been underground for a long time, too, and it seems only to have helped shaping skateboarding culture.
:
: i never understood this anger/competitiveness wh/ exists in inline and not sk8boarding. motvation is in being big, not the activity it seems. i enjoy not being in an organized sport, so much more freedom to express myself in it then try to mold myself into another. after being competitive in running, much happier not competiting but just enjoy. if we keep the culture alive, it wont die!! it will live in me anyway until they bury me to shut me up lol.
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claudine: How to keep our sport alive? (23. Jul. 2008 02:59)
 the spanairds, french and aussies have done alot for rollersk8n. most of what i know about making a good vert/street sk8 comes from them!

btw robert, if you ever get in a perminent cast, letter openers are AMAZING for the itchies lol.

: When I skated in Spain and France, there was a great rollerskate scene. I was actually on inlines at the time, but met a lot of cool rollerskaters.
:
: : : : ill be the one that makes art tho so we will live a long long time.
: : :
: : : I think that's of key importance. Vertical roller skating will only live if it has it's own (sub-)culture (which I think has a very big overlap with skateboarding culture). IMHO that also means not viewing it too much as a sport. In this way it would automatically be sorted in as trend sport and, since it isn't trendy, be dead immmediately. This is the reason why skateboarding and BMXing lives and thrives and why inline is in a miserable state. Inline tried to distinguish itself from skateboarding (they wore their knee pads under their pants, for example) but when the kids grew dominant there, they got under a growing influence of being assimilated into conventional sports (their parents didn't know better and the kids didn't understand the issue at all). Therefore, very little is left of vert inline. Inline street still is a bit alive, but they have gone very much underground. Which needn't be a bad thing. Skateboarding has been underground for a long time, too, and it seems only to have helped shaping skateboarding culture.
: :
: : i never understood this anger/competitiveness wh/ exists in inline and not sk8boarding. motvation is in being big, not the activity it seems. i enjoy not being in an organized sport, so much more freedom to express myself in it then try to mold myself into another. after being competitive in running, much happier not competiting but just enjoy. if we keep the culture alive, it wont die!! it will live in me anyway until they bury me to shut me up lol.
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ireNe: How to keep our sport alive? (25. Jul. 2008 17:42)
 : Hi all,
:
: I am curious if any of you are seeing young vertical rollerskaters? It seems the scene in Europe is still going well, but here in Cali I don't ever see any young kids on skates. Duke Rennie really nailed it when he said we are a dying breed. I know us older folks keep skating, but when we are done will our sport be dead? I am just curious to hear what you are seeing out there. After spending a little time as a vertical inline skater, I now really appreciate how special rollerskating is. Our sport has so much soul and our roots are tied so closely to skateboarding and in my opinion vertical rollerskaters are a pretty amazing group of people. Your thoughts?

We can encourage those who are interested in rollerskates. Invite them to skate, share vids & pics, teach them and share the history and explore it's future. We can contribute to sites that welcome rollerskating, be it skateboarding sites, derby, inline, wherever we can get seen. There is alot on the web already, but more is needed. We can put together a book and try to get published, get magazines to write articles, try to get media exposure. Having a skate on the shelves for youngsters to buy will surely get kids to at least try it. I don't see rollerskating reaching skateboarding/inlining's popularity, but it can be 25-30% of the whole of skating. I hope to see that someday. The youngest I know of is from DC, an artistic skater who competes. We met in 2004. Gaston was just 15 then. I hope he is still skating ramps (sidestance goofy). And, Marta from Spain, around 19. They are both rad rollers. Keep the faith!
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ireNe: How to keep our sport alive? (25. Jul. 2008 17:47)
 : Hi all,
:
: I am curious if any of you are seeing young vertical rollerskaters? It seems the scene in Europe is still going well, but here in Cali I don't ever see any young kids on skates. Duke Rennie really nailed it when he said we are a dying breed. I know us older folks keep skating, but when we are done will our sport be dead? I am just curious to hear what you are seeing out there. After spending a little time as a vertical inline skater, I now really appreciate how special rollerskating is. Our sport has so much soul and our roots are tied so closely to skateboarding and in my opinion vertical rollerskaters are a pretty amazing group of people. Your thoughts?

We can encourage those who are interested in rollerskates. Invite them to skate, share vids & pics, teach them and share the history and explore it's future. We can contribute to sites that welcome rollerskating, be it skateboarding si
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claudine: How to keep our sport alive? (26. Jul. 2008 05:55)
 : : Hi all,
: :
: : I am curious if any of you are seeing young vertical rollerskaters? It seems the scene in Europe is still going well, but here in Cali I don't ever see any young kids on skates. Duke Rennie really nailed it when he said we are a dying breed. I know us older folks keep skating, but when we are done will our sport be dead? I am just curious to hear what you are seeing out there. After spending a little time as a vertical inline skater, I now really appreciate how special rollerskating is. Our sport has so much soul and our roots are tied so closely to skateboarding and in my opinion vertical rollerskaters are a pretty amazing group of people. Your thoughts?
:
: We can encourage those who are interested in rollerskates. Invite them to skate, share vids & pics, teach them and share the history and explore it's future. We can contribute to sites that welcome rollerskating, be it skateboarding sites, derby, inline, wherever we can get seen. There is alot on the web already, but more is needed. We can put together a book and try to get published, get magazines to write articles, try to get media exposure. Having a skate on the shelves for youngsters to buy will surely get kids to at least try it. I don't see rollerskating reaching skateboarding/inlining's popularity, but it can be 25-30% of the whole of skating. I hope to see that someday. The youngest I know of is from DC, an artistic skater who competes. We met in 2004. Gaston was just 15 then. I hope he is still skating ramps (sidestance goofy). And, Marta from Spain, around 19. They are both rad rollers. Keep the faith!

i live close to dc and noone around here has seen another vert sk8r in a long long time. any contact info? i would love to see another roller one day! noone i know of in md, dc, va, wva, or pa.
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h.ludi.: How to keep our sport alive? (26. Jul. 2008 11:00)
 : : : Hi all,
: : :
: : : I am curious if any of you are seeing young vertical rollerskaters? It seems the scene in Europe is still going well, but here in Cali I don't ever see any young kids on skates. Duke Rennie really nailed it when he said we are a dying breed. I know us older folks keep skating, but when we are done will our sport be dead? I am just curious to hear what you are seeing out there. After spending a little time as a vertical inline skater, I now really appreciate how special rollerskating is. Our sport has so much soul and our roots are tied so closely to skateboarding and in my opinion vertical rollerskaters are a pretty amazing group of people. Your thoughts?
: :
: : We can encourage those who are interested in rollerskates. Invite them to skate, share vids & pics, teach them and share the history and explore it's future. We can contribute to sites that welcome rollerskating, be it skateboarding sites, derby, inline, wherever we can get seen. There is alot on the web already, but more is needed. We can put together a book and try to get published, get magazines to write articles, try to get media exposure. Having a skate on the shelves for youngsters to buy will surely get kids to at least try it. I don't see rollerskating reaching skateboarding/inlining's popularity, but it can be 25-30% of the whole of skating. I hope to see that someday. The youngest I know of is from DC, an artistic skater who competes. We met in 2004. Gaston was just 15 then. I hope he is still skating ramps (sidestance goofy). And, Marta from Spain, around 19. They are both rad rollers. Keep the faith!
:
: i live close to dc and noone around here has seen another vert sk8r in a long long time. any contact info? i would love to see another roller one day! noone i know of in md, dc, va, wva, or pa.

maybe we could do like the mormons and create an accurate register of all known vert rollerskaters.
we are a bretheran, and we are morally obliged to leave our legacy for all to see. i reckon that would be a challenge, hey mr b ?



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Bernhard: How to keep our sport alive? (27. Jul. 2008 02:07)
 : maybe we could do like the mormons and create an accurate register of all known vert rollerskaters.
: we are a bretheran, and we are morally obliged to leave our legacy for all to see. i reckon that would be a challenge, hey mr b ?

Nice idea. Irene has put quite some effort into creating such a register and I have seen attempts at such thing in other minority communities (e.g. a register of all known QL users). It surely wouldn't be a problem in principle to create such a register of all those we can connect to, but what with all the disconnected people?
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joe90: How to keep our sport alive? (27. Jul. 2008 02:14)
 : : : : Hi all,
: : : :
: : : : I am curious if any of you are seeing young vertical rollerskaters? It seems the scene in Europe is still going well, but here in Cali I don't ever see any young kids on skates. Duke Rennie really nailed it when he said we are a dying breed. I know us older folks keep skating, but when we are done will our sport be dead? I am just curious to hear what you are seeing out there. After spending a little time as a vertical inline skater, I now really appreciate how special rollerskating is. Our sport has so much soul and our roots are tied so closely to skateboarding and in my opinion vertical rollerskaters are a pretty amazing group of people. Your thoughts?
: : :
: : : We can encourage those who are interested in rollerskates. Invite them to skate, share vids & pics, teach them and share the history and explore it's future. We can contribute to sites that welcome rollerskating, be it skateboarding sites, derby, inline, wherever we can get seen. There is alot on the web already, but more is needed. We can put together a book and try to get published, get magazines to write articles, try to get media exposure. Having a skate on the shelves for youngsters to buy will surely get kids to at least try it. I don't see rollerskating reaching skateboarding/inlining's popularity, but it can be 25-30% of the whole of skating. I hope to see that someday. The youngest I know of is from DC, an artistic skater who competes. We met in 2004. Gaston was just 15 then. I hope he is still skating ramps (sidestance goofy). And, Marta from Spain, around 19. They are both rad rollers. Keep the faith!
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: : i live close to dc and noone around here has seen another vert sk8r in a long long time. any contact info? i would love to see another roller one day! noone i know of in md, dc, va, wva, or pa.
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: maybe we could do like the mormons and create an accurate register of all known vert rollerskaters.
: we are a bretheran, and we are morally obliged to leave our legacy for all to see. i reckon that would be a challenge, hey mr b ?

I recon your on the money Ludi,although,trying to get young folk into our movement so we can show them our special tricks sounds more like a catholic thing than a mormon thing.

cheers joe
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h.ludi.: How to keep our sport alive? (27. Jul. 2008 12:57)
 : : maybe we could do like the mormons and create an accurate register of all known vert rollerskaters.
: : we are a bretheran, and we are morally obliged to leave our legacy for all to see. i reckon that would be a challenge, hey mr b ?
:
: Nice idea. Irene has put quite some effort into creating such a register and I have seen attempts at such thing in other minority communities (e.g. a register of all known QL users). It surely wouldn't be a problem in principle to create such a register of all those we can connect to, but what with all the disconnected people?

there cant be too many out there more left of centre, non conformist, excentric, or oddball than me, and i managed to find this excellent site, considering i only allowed a computer in the house 3 yrs ago. its a good thing ive mellowed with age.
anything is possible if we believe in it, keep the faith, roll free + strong. every knock is a boost. thanks mr b .
cheers, h .



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